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 Post subject: Do NOT Trust the Duke Difference!!! Duke Eye Center
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:50 am 
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I just thought I would share a small part of my post-LASIK experience. For those who are not familiar with my case, I had LASIK 14 months ago and presently suffer from chronic post-LASIK eye/face/head pain as well as post-LASIK dry eye. I wear moisture chamber goggles/glasses for about 80% of my waking hours.

Statements/quotes from the "Duke Center for Vision Correction" ...

My LASIK surgeon Dr. Terry Kim, MD, MD said to me that I was a "one in a million" scenario where I somehow got a stye after LASIK that was completely unrelated to LASIK and that is what created my severe painful eye condition. Dr. Terry Kim, MD is also accurately quoted as saying ..."this stye/inflammation was not related to your LASIK surgery." The fact that I stated to him that I had never had a stye prior to LASIK did not change his opinion.

Another one of Dr. Terry Kim's favorite lines was ..."If ten cornea specialists looked at your eyes, they would say that your eyes looked normal".

After hearing the above statements for several visits that were doing nothing for my bone dry eyes and unremitting eye pain that I was experiencing 24/7, I flew to Miami, FL to see Dr. Scheffer Tseng for a second opinion.

Dr. Tseng said that I had severe meibomian gland dysfunction (MGD) in addition to conventional dry eyes and eye pain related to corneal nerve damage from LASIK.

When I stated this clinical finding to LASIK surgeon Dr. Terry Kim MD, he replied that "my meibomian gland dysfunction (MGD) had improved". This was the first time Dr. Terry Kim, MD had ever uttered the word MGD to me. Prior to the diagnosis of my second opinion MD, I was a "1 in a million case" of bad luck that was not related to LASIK.

As if this feeble whitewash isn't pathetic enough, I got a copy of my charts from the "Duke Center for Vision Correction" and my charts have comments at virtually each visit with LASIK surgeon Dr. Terry Kim, MD stating "Patient doing well" and "Patient improving". There is no mention of what I was constantly communicating to Dr. Terry Kim which was that I was experiencing severe, unremitting eye pain.

Here are some other observations related to my patient experience at the "Duke Center for Vision Correction".

The main technician avoided me throughout my post-LASIK visits. When I ran into her in the parking lot, she said "we always get our dry eye patients back". Back to where? Back to normal? Yeah right!

These DUKE LASIK folks have no problem with telling lies and more lies to damaged patients and going on with their lives without a care about the damage they have created. That, or perhaps these folks are sadistic and seeing patients who were happy pre-LASIK and are now suffering major complications somehow gives them a perverse sense of joy? I can't begin to analyze this behavior because it is something that I had never before witnessed in my life.

The other technician at the "Duke Center for Vision Correction" made a completely ridiculous and inappropriate comment to me on two separate occasions. She "jokingly" said that she should just "kick me to generate some tears". She must have thought that this was a real good line or something. By the way, this technician cannot drive at night due to her own post-LASIK complications. Perhaps she also takes some perverse sense of enjoyment in seeing other innocent people join her in being disabled by LASIK.

Can you get any more out of touch with reality? As if it were not torment enough to deal with eye pain that made me want to literally die, I had to go to the "Duke Center for Vision Correction" and deal with the sadistic crew described above for 'help'. Instead of help at the Duke Center for Vision Correction, all I received were lies and more lies.

The "Duke Center for Vision Correction" advertises in the local media with the slogan "Trust the Duke difference". I would list Duke LASIK surgeon Dr. Terry Kim, MD and the two technicians that saw me as the most Untrustworthy people I have ever come across in my life.

Based on my patient experience, it saddens me to think that some people will "trust" their eyes to this unsavory group of characters. The best advice I can give to prospective LASIK patients in general, and especially to those who think that LASIK is made safer by going to 'high profile' places like the "Duke Center for Vision Correction" is ... STAY AWAY FROM LASIK! LASIK exists for the sole purpose of making the LASIK MD's and other members of the industry very wealthy.

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 Post subject: Dr. Terry Kim's stories don't wash!
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Dr. Terry Kim said to me that I was a "one in a million" scenario where I somehow got a stye after LASIK that was completely unrelated to LASIK and that is what created my severe painful eye condition.


If you had a stye in one eye which supposedly caused your eye pain and dry eye, how does he explain that you have dry eye and pain in BOTH eyes - even the one with no stye?

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Another one of Dr. Terry Kim's favorite lines was ..."If ten cornea specialists looked at your eyes, they would say that your eyes looked normal".


Have you found ONE cornea specialist who was willing to say that your eyes look normal after LASIK, with a post-LASIK schirmer's of ZERO and all of the accompanying ocular surface disease? This is NORMAL? This is a surgically induced pathology, and the surgeon who induced it, Dr. Terry Kim should own up to that fact. The FDA openly admits that LASIK dry eye can be permanent! Dr. Terry Kim, Dr. Alan Carlson and the rest of the Duke LASIK clinic staff should as well.

Another Duke LASIK casualty told me that the technician you were complaining about called him at home and told him there was no such thing as pain post-LASIK. Surely she must know that this is untrue.

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Dry eye was not even mentioned to me as a possible "side effect". There was nothing in my "informed consent" about dry eyes. The full-color glossy brochure in my surgeon's office said that articifial tears are only needed for two weeks after LASIK. I was not tested for dry eyes before LASIK, even though I had become intolerant to my soft contacts. I had no idea that LASIK could result in chronic dry eyes.

Five months after LASIK when I had my first "second opinion", I had a Schirmers of zero in both eyes. Years later when I went to a corneal specialist (who does not perform or endorse LASIK), he was so puzzled by my Schirmers test that he asked me if I can produce tears when I cry.

My eyes are so dry that my contacts stick to my eyes.

Every eye exam I've had since LASIK, I've presented with corneal erosions.

My eyes are so red and bloodshot that people think I've been crying.

My eyes have burned 24/7 for the past seven years since I had LASIK.

And what do I have to look forward to? Menopause, when dry eye is going to get much worse. How do you get worse than this? Are my eyes going to burst into flames? :shock:

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 Post subject: Do NOT trust the Duke Eye Center/Duke Vision Correction Ctr
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If you had a stye in one eye which supposedly caused your eye pain and dry eye, how does he explain that you have dry eye and pain in BOTH eyes - even the one with no stye?


I believe Dr. Terry Kim, MD and the staff at the "Duke Center for Vision Correction" at the Duke Eye Center think that patients are dumb so they can tell them just about anything - no matter how ridiculous, and the patient is somehow supposed to believe the MD and staff.

It's possible that Dr. Terry Kim, MD and the staff at the "Duke Center for Vision Correction" at the Duke Eye Center feel that lying to patients has several advantages. First, it reduces malpractice claims. Second, patients who are damaged by lying LASIK surgeons who continue to lie to the patient during post-LASIK complications will find another MD to try to help them deal with their complications. This suits the LASIK MD just fine, since he does not want to see the damaged patient and would rather spend his time focusing on his "successes" and slicing, lasering, and permanently compromising more eyes for profit.

It is quite sad that the Duke Eye Center is a teaching Ophthalmology center that trains the next generation of MD's. Residents and certainly fellows are trained by Dr. Alan Carlson, MD and Dr. Terry Kim, MD to perform LASIK. Hopefully these trainees can self-reflect and self-assess what is morally right versus wrong because their mentors are certainly lacking in this skill.

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Have you found ONE cornea specialist who was willing to say that your eyes look normal after LASIK, with a post-LASIK schirmer's of ZERO and all of the accompanying ocular surface disease? This is NORMAL? This is a surgically induced pathology, and the surgeon who induced it, Dr. Terry Kim should own up to that fact. The FDA openly admits that LASIK dry eye can be permanent! Dr. Terry Kim, Dr. Alan Carlson and the rest of the Duke LASIK clinic staff should as well.


In my last two visits with Dr. Terry Kim, MD he told me that my Tear Break Up Time (TBUT) "has been greater than 10 seconds (which is considered normal)". Dr. Terry Kim, MD also constantly told me that my eyes "looked great" and he was just treating my "symptoms". I suppose Dr. Terry Kim, MD considers a Schirmer score of 0 to be a "symptom". Meibomian Gland Dysfunction (MGD) is also a "symptom" to him. Surface staining on the eye must also be a "symptom". Corneal nerve damage must also be a "symptom".

If Dr. Terry Kim, MD was just honest during my post-LASIK experience, I would have cut him some slack for not doing his job in properly informing me of the risks prior to LASIK. But telling me lie after lie when I was at the lowest, most vulnerable, most unremittingly painful point in my life is simply inexcusable and must be stopped.

I suppose if my pain had passed, maybe I would have moved on. Instead, my eye pain has now been referred to my face (i.e. cheeks and upper tooth region) and head due to the ophthalmic branch of the trigeminal nerve being put through chronic pain for the last 14 months.

One of the many moral wrongs related to LASIK is that most complications are not recorded in the medical chart by the MD for "medico-legal" reasons. That's why MD's like Dr. Terry Kim, MD write "patient doing fine" and characterize surgically induced pathology as "symptoms". Coming soon ... "Sicko 2" featuring your "trusted" LASIK MD.

Do NOT get LASIK anywhere, and if you live near Durham, NC Do NOT "Trust the Duke Difference" as is falsely advertised by the Duke Eye Center/Duke Center for Vision Correction.

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You can thank Glenn Hagele for the fact that when you type "Dr. Terry Kim" in a Google search, negative information about Dr. Terry Kim comes up fifth on the first page. Someone should warn these surgeons that it's probably not a real good idea to be featured on Glenn Hagele's hate site.

If you type "Terry Kim LASIK" into the Google search, this thread is #2 on the first page! You can't miss it! :P

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Kudos to you! Hold these "doctors" accountable for each and every thing they have done to you. Remember, with each time that you tell the truth, you very well could be saving someone's life from getting destroyed. Being in the medical field myself, it absolutely sickens me to know what these "doctors" are doing.

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Dear Eye Pain and Group;

The way you were treated at Duke Medical is not uncommon. I have seen this from patients who had lasik done at Bascom Palmer Eye Institute and other major eye centers. It seems that patients interested in lasik feel that they will get a better result if they go to a "world class" institution. Many years ago I named this "The Wizard of Oz Syndrome." All patients interested in getting the best medical attention want to see the "wizard" but we all know what really lurked behind the curtain.

Edward Boshnick, O.D., F.A.A.O.
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 Post subject: Do NOT trust "The Duke Difference"
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Eye Pain said:
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I suppose Dr. Terry Kim, MD considers a Schirmer score of 0 to be a "symptom".


A Schirmer's score of zero represents a life-altering complication, and a doctor who would wreak such devastation on a previously healthy unoperated eye is, in my opinion, a butcher.

The 'curtain' will be pulled back permanently and the tiny evil men exposed for what they are! Likely, the early denouncers of the LASIK procedure will have made the best career move.


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Thank you Dr. Bosh and group.

The reason I have decided to speak openly about my patient experience at the Duke Eye Center is largely because of the misconception that the public has when they think that going to Duke makes LASIK safe. The ?Wizard of Oz? analogy that Dr. Bosh offered is spot on.

I?ll list below a summary of what patients may experience if they decide to ?Trust the Duke Difference? ?

At pre-screening ?
- Very few risks are discussed and those few risks that are discussed are joked about by the MD because they are so ?rare".

- The lead technician and staff will constantly tell you that you?ll do ?great?.

- There will be no mention of advantages of pre-treating for dry eyes and no informed consent form will be given to the patient.

On the day of your LASIK ...
- Your informed consent form will be presented to you for the very first time just minutes prior to your LASIK by the nurse who is holding the valium in one hand and the informed consent form in the other.

If/when you experience post-LASIK complications, you may experience the following, based on what happened to me ?
- The MD may very well not inform you of your complication. Unless you learn the answer to your problem through other means such as going to a reputable MD, you may be made to feel as if a problem does not exist by the Duke Eye Center staff and MD.
- Your eyes can look and feel like hell and cause unremitting eye pain. You can state this to the MD, but if you say anything, and I mean anything, that sounds remotely positive (ex. my right eye seems like it does not burn 24/7 anymore, but it is still causing me incredible discomfort), the MD may very well write ?Patient improving? without bothering to write all of the problems that were also stated during the visit.
- If you work at Duke, your MD may discuss your LASIK issues with your supervisor. In fact, he may even make completely false statements such as ?he has plenty of tears so that is not his problem?. I suppose to a LASIK MD, things like HIPAA and the Hippocratic Oath are not important.
- If you ask for treatment options for your post-LASIK severe dry eye complication like serum drops, the U.S. News & World Report #7 ranked Duke Eye Center MD will tell you to contact and visit an MD in Houston, TX or Miami, FL if you are interested in that treatment. Interestingly, there is a private LASIK MD (not ranked by U.S. News & World Report) just 20 minutes from the Duke Eye Center that provides serum drops to her damaged LASIK patients that are in need. I suppose since there is no real money involved to the Duke LASIK MD?s pockets, they (i.e. Dr. Alan Carlson, MD and Dr. Terry Kim, MD) do not feel that serum drops are something that they need to provide as a service to their patients that they personally damage. However, Dr. Alan Carlson, MD does recommend serum drops to post-LASIK complication patients. He tells them to fly from Durham, NC to Houston, TX to get these serum drops because he cannot be bothered with supplying this to his own patients.
- You may hear ridiculous statements from the technician staff such as ?we always get our dry eye patients back? and ?maybe I should just kick you to make some tears?. Perhaps they are not aware that approximately 5% of post-LASIK patients experience dry eye that is chronic.
- Your MD may be less than truthful to you throughout your post-LASIK complication visits until you reach a point where you realize that you are being lied to and you need to find a new MD to figure out how to deal with the debilitating effects of your post-LASIK complications.

In summary, you may very well feel like you have entered total bizarro land if you experience post-LASIK complications at the Duke Eye Center/Duke Center for Vision Correction. It's like being at the ?Mad Hatter Tea Party?, but not nearly as pleasant.

I am 14 months post-LASIK and severe chronic eye, face, and head pain consumes much of my energy and quality of life. The best advice that I can give is ? ?DO NOT Trust the Duke Difference?!

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 Post subject: Dr. Terry Kim, MD , Dr. Alan Carlson, MD cause eye damage
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One would think that if Dr. Terry Kim, MD and Dr. Alan Carlson, MD were creating dry eye complications that required some patients to fly half way across the continent for symptomatic relief from the surgical damage sustained at their Duke clinic - that it may dawn on them that THEY ARE HARMING PATIENTS AND SHOUD STOP.

Gosh, go for an elective procedure at Duke Duke Eye Center/Duke Laser Vision Correction Center and you may end up with complications that Duke can't address! I did quite a bit of traveling myself after my Duke LASIK Disaster.

I also had unpleasant experiences with Duke Eye Center/Duke Laser Vision Correction Center intruding in my work. Not only was I dealing with poor vision and dry eye pain/discomfort at work - a plain clothes campus POLICE officer was sent during work hours to speak with me.

He had the gall to ask me what other doctors I had seen. I asked him if that was a police matter and received no answer. I can only speculate that the Duke docs wanted this information because they were eager to sweep my outcome under the rug. No such luck for them. I think sending a plainclothes campus security officer to intrude upon their LASIK complications patient's life even further must be a new low.

The Duke security officer also asked me to 'volunteer' to make a statement about my LASIK experience, and slid a piece of blank paper across the table toward me. I refused.

I had used wedding paint to paint some warning signs on my vehicles and the 'officer' tried to talk me out of that. I was trying to prevent other nice people who live and work in the vicinity (like Eye Pain) from suffering my fate. I wish Eye Pain had seen my signs. :cry:

Another fairly recent Duke victim (this was Dr. Alan Carlson, MD's LASIK casualty) told me that Dr. Alan Carlson, MD told one of the Duke technicians to call them at home and tell them that there was no such thing as Eye Pain after LASIK.

How do you feel about that, Eye Pain?

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A patient, nurturing a web of Hippocratic philosophy and humanitarian ideals; a doctor, immersed in a world of greed, lies and sadism. For the physician-patient relationship to succeed, decency, veracity, and morality must be present; All that have yet to be seen..... here, in the twilight zone..... lol


OMG, what is the world coming to? Great job in warning the public of what these, so-called, doctors are doing. I want everyone to know - being in the medical field myself, I normally do not condone this behavior, yet when an individual disables another person for personal gain, the word must go out!

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 Post subject: Duke University Eye Center - STOP DAMAGING EYES!!!
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Thanks LASIKBS. The Twilight Zone is also very appropriate when considering what LASIK complication patients experience.

I posted this elsewhere but have tweaked it some. It's worth repeating on this more active thread ...
Here are my top 3 LASIK marketing slogans for the Duke University Eye Center ...

1) "Do NOT Trust the Duke Difference"
2) "We ruin eyes and lives and follow this up with lies and lies"
3) "The only time we'll tell you the risks is just minutes before your LASIK as the nurse holds the valium in one hand and the consent form in the other."

Things that make you go hmmm? ...Why are 3 out of the 4 of the LASIK MD's pictured on the Duke University Eye Center web site wearing contact lenses in the pictures? Do they want the public to believe that they had LASIK themselves and are now "free" from glasses? These 3 MD's seem to frequently where their glasses, but I guess that's not good for LASIK marketing. By the way, why didn't they have LASIK? Are all of their corneas too thin or do they value their own eyes more than they value the eyes of the general public?

If you go to the Duke University Eye Center website, www.dukeeye.org you will find plenty of propoganda/advertising for LASIK but virtually no mention of risks. I'm sure the MD's wearing there glasses are aware of the risks. However, they do not wish to share these risks with their community that is supposed to "Trust the Duke Difference".

I have heard that there are excellent physician-scientists trying to find cures for eye disease at the Duke University Eye Center Albert Eye Research Institute (AERI) and the Duke Macular Degeneration Center, funded by generous donations by eye disease victims such as Ruth Albert, Leonard and Rose Herring, and Evelyn Hunter Longdon. Unfortunately, these researchers have clinical "colleagues" who are at the "Duke Center for Vision Correction" permanently damaging healthy eyes for personal profit. This qualifies as a medical oxymoron.

Non-LASIK MD's view LASIK as someone else's issue. I predict that there will come a day when the light will be shone on the LASIK industry and it will be an epic embarassment to the eye profession. At that point, non-LASIK MD's will regret not taking a stand against a practice that is universally damaging and morally wrong within their field.

I suppose their LASIK "peers" will take the huge amounts of money they have made damaging eyes and lives, and quietly exit through the back door. After all, I have learned that Cornea/LASIK MD's have a reputation in the Ophthalmology community as being the most "slippery" MD's that exist. I have witnessed this "slippery" nature of LASIK MD's while being a LASIK complication patient in desperate need of quality care.

In my opinion, any academic eye center that performs LASIK should be disqualified for ranking in the top 10 programs by U.S. News & World Report - or any other publication. In addition, any academic eye center that does LASIK should be barred from receiving funding from the NIH-National Eye Institute (NEI) or Research to Prevent Blindness (RPB). RPB and LASIK at the same academic eye center is yet another oxymoron.

The word "moron" comes up frequently when LASIK is discussed.

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 Post subject: Don't trust 'The Duke Difference'
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Eye Pain offers this as the new slogan for Duke LASIK:
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"The only time we'll tell you the risks is just minutes before your LASIK as the nurse holds the valium in one hand and the consent form in the other."


This is unconscionable. Patients should have time to study their informed consent. Seeing your informed consent materials for the first time just before you take your valium for surgery should be considered malpractice in the form of violation of the right to fully informed consent.


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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Terry Kim's stories don't wash!
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Scientist wrote:
Another Duke LASIK casualty told me that the technician you were complaining about called him at home and told him there was no such thing as pain post-LASIK. Surely she must know that this is untrue.


I suffer from profound trigeminal nerve (TN) pain due to my post-LASIK complications. Dr. Minarik states that the ?ophthalmologic community cannot accept that the severing of a nerve on the cornea would cause trigeminal neuralgia in a nerve?.

I have been told by some LASIK MD?s that my severe face pain is due to allergies (I have never had allergies) or it is not related to my LASIK (I can count on one hand the number of headaches I had in my life prior to LASIK).

I can state for a fact that Dr. Terry Kim, MD and his staff at the Duke Eye Center were less than truthful to me and/or withheld important information that I later learned about relating to my post-LASIK complications.

Therefore, it comes as no surprise to hear that the lead technician at the Duke Eye Center would call a patient at home who is complaining of eye pain and tell that patient that there was no such thing as pain post-LASIK. Remember that this is the same technician who told me that at the Duke Laser Vision Correction Center, they "always get their dry eye patients back". This is obviously yet another blatant lie since a) I still suffer from severe dry eyes, b) Scientist recently had cautery due to her post-LASIK dry eyes from LASIK done at the Duke Eye Center by Dr. Terry Kim, MD, and c) there is plenty of anecdotal evidence of other Duke Eye Center patients of Dr. Alan Carlson, MD and Dr. Terry Kim, MD who are suffering from chronic post-LASIK dry eyes.

What really shocks me is that the Duke LASIK MD's and staff think so little of their patients intelligence that they would tell such moronic lies to the patient and expect the patient to believe them. What Dr. Terry Kim, MD does not understand is that after he fails to properly inform a patient of the risks of LASIK and then he attempts to downplay post-LASIK complications, complication patients who are suffering from life-altering complications start to seek the truth elsewhere.

While Dr. Terry Kim, MD is likely initially relieved that these damaged patients have moved on and are no longer seeing him, the catch is that some of these patients who feel a strong sense of right and wrong cannot simply move on and forget the MAJOR violations of trust (i.e blatant and willful lack of informed consent), lack of empathy, lack of quality care, and lies that Dr. Terry Kim, MD and his staff at the Duke Eye Center spew out with seeming regularity.

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 Post subject: Considering LASIK in Raleigh Durham or Chapel Hill?
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If you are considering LASIK in Raleigh Durham or Chapel Hill, or anywhere else for that matter... educate yourself. There are resources available now that will quickly make you an informed and savvy consumer! Don't sign up for a permanent bad surprise!

If you are considering LASIK Eye surgery or any other form of corneal refractive surgery in the Research Triangle Area of North Carolina, including Raleigh, Durham and Chapel Hill : please
read The LASIK Report at:

http://www.thelasikreport.com

and

10 Reasons NOT to Have LASIK at :

http://www.lasikflap.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1425

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